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Reduction program at dod, sat for an interview with the website bulletin of the atomic scientists. hope is in charge of limiting soviet era bio weapon so he knows a lot about the subject, may be more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured, and pope acknowledge that in the interview. which apparently cnn did not see. according to his interview, pope said the labs "may hold pathogen strains left over from the soviet bio weapons program, preserved in freezers for research purposes." pope said that "scientists, being scientists, ...

We are following this new momentum behinds russia's push to try to spread disinformation. and that's try to spread disinformation. that's because propaganda is picking up steam thanks to debunked conspiracy theories and some americans are spreading them in the message boards. tucker carlson talked about one on the show. the lie that the u.s. is planning to release a bio weapon and that russia invaded to take over the labs. . targets dr. fauci and president biden. more on this after the break. msnbc will be right back.

Freezers. how does that work exactly? how heavy are these bio weapons? do we lack the transportation capacity to get them out of ukraine and bury them in a desert in nevada? when was the pentagon planning to finish this important job? in 20 years? in 50 years? there's also a very obvious question, but not a single reporter asked any of those questions. meanwhile, over at cnn, perhaps where the first expedition did not make sense once you thought about it, offered a new alibi. according to cnn's website, the labs in ukraine existed "secure old soviet weapons," okay, secure, not eliminate. which...

That, it's ridiculous lie. it might seem weird, out of nowhere, but it's actually been building in the most kooky conspiracy theory corners of the internet for a little while now. in fact, back on march 2nd, foreign policy actually had their eyes on this, they wrote a great article, when this started bumping up. quote, pro-russian channels and qanon conspiracy theorists think moscow is launching airstrikes on ukraine in order to destroy bioweapon manufacturing lives in order to prevent the american infectious disease expert anthony fauci from phoenix equal to the covid-19 virus. the story hang...

Happen again and we have to just presume that they did. somebody called another bipartisan, i don't think we need one. >> greg: i'm tired of them. >> dagen: we never get any answers. i don't know who it's close out the altar at this point, he has passed his youthfulness if he ever had any. unless he was there, and harold essentially was saying american dollars went to create a bio weapon. that was unleashed on the world and killed 5 million. >> i did not say that. >> dagen: that's the implication. >> that is not my implication but your interpretation come i want to be clear. >> dagen: these or...