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When a substantive discussion that lasted over some of the ideas that he raised which i found unserious, like the birth issue or the seizing of iraqi oil wells. we talked about that. we had a point, counter point discussion about it. extremely civil. he talked about china and how he would be the one who could negotiate a deal with china. in the end i had to tell him that i had written a column which was about to go out, which is even tougher on him than what i said on television. he handled that rather well. i give him credit for graciousness and restraint. but he convinced me he's running. th...

>> you cannot tell china not to manipulate its currency. >> if you have the right messenger, they won't be doing it for long. >> we should just send the donald to beijing and he'll take care of it. >> if he's elected president, he's going to turn the white house into a casino. place your bets. here goes the national call. >> excuse me. excuse me. i would love for him to come out with a birth certificate. >> the birth issue is going to hurt him. >> excuse me. >> he wants to see obama's birth certificate. i want to see his hairline. somewhere back here. that's more than a combover. that's a reen...

To say about it. he called me become a half hour later and said well mr. trump appreciates your advice and that's exactly what he's going to do. then he goes out yesterday and says, this birth issue -- birther issue, the birth certificate issue is a real big issue. fine, go ahead and do that. i think it marriage in it margy who has potential to contribute. jenna: millions more jobs heading overseas as major u.s. firms shift their hiring a broad while cutting back here. a sharp debate over globalization and the impact on america's economy, what this debt issue means for future jobs at home. an ...

They will use his birth issue, he doesn't have that, the president doesn't have it they are not going to let him campaign for office in arizona in 2012. this is fascinating -- it's worse than "hardball" but we'll be right back on msnbc.

>> i want to know what the head of cia knows. i want to know how many people we have in the streets with arabic looks and arabic accents and work their way into the muslim brotherhood. i want people in there. i'm a believer in intelligence. i would like to think we can catch up snipe suspect on friday the intelligence estimate was that mubarak couldn't last and that's why you saw president obama come out seconds almost after -- >> a million people on the streets tomorrow. three days after that mubarak is gone. thank you. let's go back to domestic politics and the birther crowd in arizona try...