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Where she would be forced to be in this political area. she would much rather stay in the legal area where she's able to make progress on things like civil rights and civil litigation. she's a lawyer's lawyer as jeff sessions described, she's not a politician and that's what she would be if she was in a position she had to defend the justice department's actions in the mueller probe. >> chris, number one, give us a status report, how real do you think the threat is any given day to rod rosenstein, and what if if rosenstein is fired tonight, absent brand at justice, who then gets -- who does it...

The mueller probe. >> i would guess some day she'd be a spectacular choice for the federal bench. chris, a couple questions for you. number one, give us a status report, how real do you think the threat is any given day to rod rosenstein, and what if if rosenstein is fired tonight, absent brand at justice, who then gets -- who does it cascade down to? who gets to be the next person to oversee the mueller investigation? >> so as far as the threat to rod rosenstein, it's hard to know. you know, as was said earlier tonight, a lot of people wind up in president trump's bad graces and they stay the...