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The "times" reporting as part of this scoop as well that president trump has spoken directly to president putin on this issue. that's new. the "times" also reporting as part of the same effort the russians have also promoted a theory essentially that the president's campaign chairman paul manafort was framed. that the so-called black ledger that showed him taking millions of dollars in illicit payments from ukraine is not new information and that he somehow shouldn't be in jail. joining us now, julian barnes. thank you for joining us tonight. i know it's a busy environment. >> thanks have havi...

Officials in recent weeks briefed u.s. senators on the false claim that that was ukraine that meddled in the 2016 elekds and n election and not russia. intelligence agencies informed senators in recent weeks that claim is the output of a years long campaign by russia to essentially frame ukraine as responsible for moskow's own hacking of the 2016 election. that of course puts a whole new shine on the president and his republican supporters further promoting that falsehood as they try to defend the president in the impeachment context. "the times" reporting as part of this scoop as well preside...

The information about paul manafort, who was then the campaign chairman for the trump campaign. who then had to resign because of that. it was the so-called "black ledger" that came out. certainly the ukrainian government was not particularly happy about president trump. but where president trump has this idea of crowdstrike and the dnc covering up that it was really ukraine behind it by blaming russia, there is not in the evidence for. but there is something i've talked to a lot of current and former white house officials about. that is regarding president trump and russian meddling in the 20...

Release of the so-called black ledger and mr. manafort's subsequent resignation from president trump's campaign and the departure from office of former prosecutor general vikter shokin. other events were president trump's july 25th, 2019 call with president zelensky, the discussions surrounding that phone call and any discussion surrounding the delay of security assistance to ukraine in the summer of 2019. events during my tenure in ukraine. i want to reiterate first that the allegation that i disseminated a do not prosecute list was a fabrication. mr. lutsenko, the former ukrainian prosecutor...

You're investigating to which i don't have any knowledge. it includes the release of the so-call so-called black ledger. and, the departure from office of former prosecutor general victor shohem. several other events occurred after ukraine, the discussions surrounding that phone kcall, ad the delay of security assistance. as for events during my tenure in ukraine, i want to reiterate first that the allegation that i asemila asemilated a do not prosecute list is false. i did not tell mr. leschenko who