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That's how badly she wanted her husband out of her life and locked away. so when police asked her to wear a wire and meet him for lunch again, she jumped at the chance. >> i was actually calm because i knew that karl believed my story of wanting to get back together. >> reporter: abigail's restaurant near seneca falls would be the meeting place. it was mid-november, 2012. you had undercover officers in the restaurant? >> we had four in there. >> reporter: were they diners? were they waiters? >> diners. >> reporter: there was very little evidence against karl karlsen. so the detectives desperat...

In 2008. >> i asked you if you pushed the truck and you said yes. >> i didn't push the truck, i said. no, i said i had nothing to do with it. but i said i took advantage of the situation once it happened. and that is exactly what i said to you. >> karl, you told me that you didn't set it up that way, but when you were in there you saw the opportunity. >> no, after it had happened. then i panicked and saw the opportunity. >> reporter: the detective was struck by that exchange. how could a father call his son's death an opportunity? >> at that moment i felt understood him to a diaegree. he doesn...

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And pretty soon kathy and todd moved into a big lakeside house in georgia with a boat and fancy cars and, of course, an airplane. kathy, always so nurturing, told her friends she was ready to take the next step. >> i remember kathy calling me and telling me that they were living in georgia and she was excited about it and she wanted to have children. i was excited for her because i can see her with little kids. >> reporter: but, nine years into what looked like a happy marriage, children had yet to arrive. and now we know because of what was in that blue box they never would. time to find out ...

>> yes. >> people call me a murderer. i'm 100% innocent. >> you could have heard a pin drop in that courtroom. potsdam. way upstate new york. a small speck on the map on the road to the canadian border. >> they like to joke up there that there is more cows than people and i don't think they're joking. >> in this sleepy place with a main street from the 1950s, you'd think nothing happens that could possibly interest the outside world. but an epic story has unfolded here. a murder case, for sure. but so much more than that. >> it's a little bit fargo. >> it is a little bit fargo. >> jesse mcki...