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You didn't have to justify your vote to anybody. >> you know, ben, one of the interesting things, and i don't understand it, you know, coming from the defense side, and i think jose would back me up on, this there are certain cases you know in jury selection you're not going to be able to win the case. you know because of the dynamics and everything else, and you try that case to get a hung jury. i think when the prosecution had the two white jurors placed back into that jury box and they saw the composition of this case, if they really wanted to win it, they should have tried this case to han...

Would have did had that been their child. one vote, the prosecutors could have said, your vote is your vote, you said you had the evidence there. you didn't have to be persuaded. you didn't have to justify your vote to anybody. >> you know, ben, one of the interesting things, and i don't understand it, you know, coming from the defense side, and i think jose would back me up on, this there are certain cases you know in jury selection you're not going to be able to win the case. you know because of the dynamics and everything else, and you try that case to get a hung jury. i think when the pros...

Not going to be able to win the case. you know because of the dynamics and everything else, and you try that case to get a hung jury. i think when the prosecution had the two white jurors placed back into that jury box and they saw what the composition was of this case, if they really wanted to win it, they should have tried this case to hang it so they would have had another chance at a retrail. it's yet another, i think, black mark, if you will on the prosecution in this case. i can't say enough horrible things about the prosecution. >> let's let jose weigh in on this, as well. go ahead, jos...

On and that's the top name on the list. we'll see if they are right, trace. >> and you know more about this than i do, martha. i heard you talking with bill about if you look back at the history and of course we all recently learned a lot more about the royal family through the movie "the king's speech" and you were talking about names and association with that and how you had a brother that passed on the throne and one king take over. it is fascinating how very important the name is which is why aside from the birth of the baby, the name really is very critical. talk about that. >> well, a lo...

>> i have known him for many years, a long time. >> before he came here? >> yes. >> were you in love with him then? >> i wouldn't say in love with him, but i loved him. >> this is not just a contract you're signing. >> i understand that. it's a covenant. >> it is a covenant you're making with him, you know, and this makes it much, much more serious. >> there are certain people that are allowed to come into the prison to perform these wedding ceremonies. he was one of them. they didn't know each other ahead of time. he was obviously trying to counsel her. >> he'll have this black mark against h...