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Hamburg, germany. he is arriving for this one-on-one meeting, a restricted meeting with german chancellor angela merkel. then after that, they are going to have a broader meeting including other people, but lots of folks are wondering what is going to go on and what they're going to say to each other behind these closed doors here. let me bring on the rest of the couch. a "outnumbered," what do you think? they've had a testy relationship so far. >> meghan: i went to vegas about a month ago and when i was gambling at the blackjack table, i was sitting next to some germans and of course, i broug...

Undergraduate. when you encounter it, you start to see it everywhere. you see it in yourself. i sat at a blackjack table and thought to myself, i'm due. i'm due. and i feel the feeling that i'm due as powerfully as you could feel anything. and i know it's dumb and totally wrong and i should get up from the blackjack table. >> imagine how you feel after you've had a couple of drinks. you know, it's absolutely right. people go with that feeling. anyway, so these mistakes that they kind of -- i feel like them charting in searching for the kind of errors that the mind made, they were actually kind...

Trump moment. these guys at the center of their work is the idea that we are fallible, that we are actually kind of wired for certain mistakes. >> systematically. >> systematically fallible. the awareness of our fallibility is actually human. if we're going to guard against it, we need to know it. we have a president who just got elected that prides himself on infallibility and trusts his instinct. it's really terrifying. >> i encountered his work as an undergraduate. when you encounter it, you start to see it everywhere. you see it in yourself. i sat at a blackjack table and thought to myself...

Back to this, it is not the thing that will appeal to the voters that have not made up their minds. >> and hillary clinton was able to shift the discussion from wikileaks. there could be a lot of questions where she feels on safer ground. we have a few minutes left. i would like to shift the discussion to what the heck happens now? we have two and a half weeks left. no more debates. no big intervening moments. john phillips, i harp on the fact that donald trump was eight points down going into the debate. our poll found he lost the debate. what is left for him to do? >> if i could predict the ...

>> mike berry, a guy who gets his haircut at supercuts and doesn't wear shoes, knows more than alan greenspan. how do you explain what a synthetic collateralized debt obligation to an audience? have selena gomez describe it at a blackjack table. that's one way a movie called "the big short" does it. it shows how people predicted the housing and mortgage bubble. the director sat down with chris hayes to discuss "the big short" and how he adapted journalist michael lewis's book of the same name for the big screen. >> it was one of those books i read where it was like i picked it up at 9:00 p.m...