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Much too vocally taking a position on things he can't possibly have clear knowledge of at this stage of the representation. anywhere coming into a case like this would keep his head down for a period of time and make sure he had the facts in line. this attorney is not doing that. i'd have to say, no, he's not helping his client at all. >> laura, as far as the russia investigation, a big question in all of this is will the president take the fifth amendment? here's giuliani on that. >> are you confident the president will not take the fifth in this case? >> how can i be confident of that? when ...

Problem right now is one of credibility. i've seen some of the arguments about donald trump, jr. and his actions and to me they are decent arguments. for example, this isn't certainly treason, probably not even a crime. there's a good case to be made on those points. people are saying look at ukraine and their interaction with an operative at the dnc during the election campaign. to the benefit of hillary clinton. that's a fair point as well. the problem is, you have this blanket assertion from the president, vice president, all the way down, that there was no collusion, there were no meetings...

Problem right now is one of credibility. i've seen some of the arguments about donald trump, jr. and his actions and to me they are decent arguments. for example, this isn't certainly treason, probably not even a crime. there's a good case to be made on those points. people are saying look at ukraine and their interaction with an operative at the dnc during the election campaign. to the benefit of hillary clinton. that's a fair point as well. the problem is, you have this blanket assertion from the president, vice president, all the way down, that there was no collusion, there were no meetings...