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In many ways you're counting for the very first time. the term recount can be a misnomer here because in some of these areas you have the overseas ballots coming in. you have undercounting of blaults because of mismatched signatures. i think a lot of this comes in large respect from these blanket assertions, these bald assertions with no facts behind them. in fact the florida police have found no evidence of fraud. the state elections commissions have no evidence of fraud. judges have said -- looked at one of nine lawsuits and said there's no evidence here. you can't just make a bald assertion...

By law. it's automatically triggered when the margin falls below 0.5 percentage points. the president, even the governor, they both seem hellbent on ignoring that. >> they do, which is odd given the fact that those laws and the idea of being an automatic trigger came in large part after the 2000 bush v. gore fiasco. so this was a rehabilitative measure that florida tried to undertake to ensure you never had it repeat again. now, of course, it didn't work out. we do have recounts. but in many ways you're counting for the very first time. the term recount can be a misnomer here because in some o...

Builds it up. i said, i think this guy may have more than that. we were surprised every time. she was not as close to him as i was. >> so, he's trying to knock back the claims, but did he open up new questions about who knew what when? >> yes. you have the battle of the blanket assertions here and it sounds like they're battling who gets what side is the best friend heartbroken necklace chain you get in sixth grade. who was closer, who was around him. and all that leads me to believe and ask the question, rudy giuliani, are you the president's attorney, or are you a witness, which means that m...

Practice of putting out the weakest ones first, that he builts it up and bills it up and builds it up. we were surprised every time he disa disclosure. she was not as close to him as i was. >> did he open up a bunch of new questions? >> yes. you the battle of the blanket assertions. all of it leads me to believe and ask the question, are you the president's attorney or you're going to honor attorney/client privilege or are you a witness which means mueller would have to ask you questions between what the president has said in twitter or other public statements or even through you or what you h...

Answer about what jared kushner did or this answer here in the run- run-up, at that point does this then -- does it make it that much harder for the president's team to fight this subpoena? >> it makes it harder, but in these situations, in these executive privilege claims and counterclaims, there are no blanket assertions. the president can't make a blanket assertion, and mueller can't say -- can't make a blanket assertion and say we demand -- we need all of this just because we're running a criminal investigation. so he needs to say in each instance, this is why i need to find out about the ...