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A crisis which the currency is completely devalued. we print and print money, inflation races up, financial markets collapse. it is compared to that where block granting, repealing obama care, voucherizing medicare, doing all of the things he does, in comparison to the debt crisis, all of that is fine, moderate, it is just a necessary painful medicine for a deep disease. if we don't have a debt crisis though, if the whole thing is not about deficit reduction but about making radical conservative reforms to the government, nobody likes it. that's what paul ryan found out in the first 10, 12, 15...

>> welcome back on a big news saturday as we have been telling you all morning. as the mitt's vp app. confirms. romney choosing ryan as running mate. how will react to this pick. joining us now is brian benjamin. a delegate and top fundraiser for the democratic party. good to see you this morning, brian. how will the obama campaign go after this selection? let me guess. medicare? >> well, that's a start. first of all, if you look at paul ryan's budget, we have to go through this in complete detail because the budget is very complex. a lot of pieces to t very simple points. one is a serious ove...

>> i've been there, you're going to save $800 billion. doesn't his plan -- yes or no on this one, say we will spend $800 billion less on medicaid? that's there, black and white, on the paper, right? >> my understanding is we do make savings in medicaid. we do that by block granting. i don't have that memorized. >> $800 billion less in spending. identical to the amount we're giving back to the richest 2%? >> well, yes, except the trouble is if you decide to get rid of those tax cuts, what's going to happen is the reverse of what i just explained in may of 2003, of what you're going to have is m...