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Spend for example, on things like medicaid, are these opportunities that we could take to start cutting and how much might it save us? >> well, it will save a lot if you can get rid of the fraud abuse but every administration talks about it and doesn't do much about it. i do think more block grants to the states letting the governors and state legislators be in control would be much more efficient would actually save a lot of money but if you listen to mick mulvaney the head of the office of management and budget he presents to the president almost on a monthly basis look, this is where the re...

Reform, we have essentially repealed obamacare and will come up with something that will be much better, whether it's block grants or whether it's taking what we have and doing something terrific. >> laura: the president there, the obamacare mandate that requires people to buy insurance or face a penalty will soon be a thing of the past. it was repealed in the tax reform bill. something republicans have wanted to do for years. so what does that all mean for the rest of obamacare? let's talk about it with zac petkanas, a former hillary clinton campaign staffer and advisor to the dnc and chris b...

From the individual mandate. so the individual mandate is being repealed. so in this bill, not only do we have massive tax cuts and tax reform, we have essentially repealed obamacare and we'll come up with something that will be much better. whether it's block grants or whether it's taking what we have and doing something terrific. but obamacare has beenry peeled in this bill. we didn't want to bring it up. i told people specifically "be quiet with the fake news media because i don't want them talking to much about it." but now that it's approved i can say the individual mandate on health care...

Just opened another door, though. there's no question through some administrative action, some regulatoryas and repealing the individual mandate there is no question they have taken pieces of obamacare away but it's still the law of the land. first let's listen to the president. >> so the individual mandate is being revealed so in this bill not only do we have massive tax cuts and tax reform, we have essentially repealed obamacare and we'll come up with something that will be much better whether it's block grants or whether it's taking what we have and doing something terrific. but obamacare h...

Would save the middle class money. listen to what he had to say during that cabinet meeting. >> so, in this bill not only do we have massive tax cuts and tax reform, we have essentially repealed obamacare and we'll come up with something that will be much better. whether it's block grants or taking what we have and doing something terrific. but obamacare has been repealed in this bill. >> reporter: so, that is a significant part of this legislation. it was one of the more controversial pieces, but it did, in fact, pass. a lot of people, craig, said you can't combine health care with tax reform...