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Upset about terrorism. they're not going to die of terrorists. they're going to die of something else. and resiliency is a great defense to terrorism. you know, resiliency meaning we can handle -- >> the israelis have taught us that. >> and the british after the attack back in 2005. boy, they went right back to work the next day. they didn't let the terrorists bother them one bit. so we got to be careful. we've got to react. we've got to do sensible things. the same time, we have to put this in perspective. >> you know, i think one of best things you did during the 9/11 aftermath was the way y...

>> can you characterize how much of the town was effected? one gentleman told me how a lot of the town is just gone. >> i don't know. i can tell you that from when i drove through there, there was devastation that changed from house to house, block to block. it is a -- i don't want to call it constricted neighborhood, but there are homes close together, businesses close together. the main hub of downtown is a major thoroughfare. lots of businesses in and around the area. the city of west has experienced a very significant, major event for them. they have experienced significant devastation in ...

In the texas town of west where a fertilizer plant blew up with a force so powerful it leveled businesses and homes in every direction. rescuers are searching ruins for survivors going building to building in the disseminated neighborhood hoping to find people still alive. major dan ford incident commander with the waco salvation army. major ford, thank you so much for being here with us. what you can tell us about the latest? it is 10 of 3:00 eastern time. earlier this morning we were told it was still a search and rescue operation. and now? >> it is still hopefully a search and rescue operat...

>> do you characterize how much of the town was affected? one gentleman told me a lot of the town is just gone. >> i don't know. i can tell you that from when i drove through there, there was devastation that changed from house-to-house, block-to-block. it is a -- i don't want to call it a constricted neighborhood. there were homes close together. businesses close together. the main hub of downtown is a major thoroughfare. lots of businesses in and around the area. they -- the city of west has experienced a very significant, major event to them. they have experienced significant devastation in...

They were pulling people out of these houses like this one and a lot of these people are elderly. for the people that we've spoken to who managed to get out in time, they say that they had half-an-hour between the time of the earthquake hit to when that wall of water just roared straight through here. so for the elderly who were on ground level, standing where we are standing, they would have gotten just swept up, carried away. >> it is about a kilometer to where the sea actually begins so it rolled all the way in, then even further in. how many bodies were they able to recover roughly? >> yes...