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Smarter. over the next decade the cbo forecast the discretionary spending will shrink to 29% of the budget and mandatory to 71 and the sequester is the first. this 85 billion dollars is the first of 1.2 trillion dollars in cuts that are supposed to take place over the next decade and we're increasingly cutting them out of the part of the budget that gets voted upon the discretionary part not out of the mandatory put on autopilot and you know, that's just, making it more and more difficult for us to cut. there's a way out of this and the republicans in the house in my opinion ought to take the ...

That is? >> brian: george bush. he left the spots there. >> steve: the department of defense officially yesterday notified 800,000 civilian employees at the pentagon that given the looming sequester, there is really a possibility that they are going to be furloughed. the way the law runs and the way the if you are slow sequester runs, it looks like they would be furloughed one day per week through the educational background of the fiscal year for a total of 22 furloughed days, where they don't get paid. there are a lot of people saying, this is really a bad thing. keep in mind, the president i...

Not just an across the board cut. not basically taking a month away from dod civilians that worked so hard to protect this country. we need a phased drawdown of dod civilians, not across the board cut. bill: i didn't mean to cut you off. go ahead. >> another big issue is acquisition reform. we have a lot of cost overruns for major programs but the reason we have cost overruns technology involved, some programs are so expensive. i guess the last point i would make on that, health care costs. the military retiree population is like the civilian population. there are a large amount of baby boomer...

Summer. we wanted a strategic plan to reduce the spending. the house passed that in may. we had an outlined plan to reduce spending. we had no answer from them. the see questions station wa sequestration was the last report. i haven't been in congress a longtime but i can tell you they don't do anything until they have to. that is that have to moment. jenna: you say we have our plan, we put it forward to you guys, if it doesn't happen you'll get what you want in the form of see questions station. >> we are talking about $120 billion across the board in spending cuts and $3.7 trillion budget. t...

First one it was the white house idea. >> how do we know that? >> a book heavily sourced in the white house says gene brought it forward last year. the republicans didn't understand and it it took a couple days for them to figure out what is was. across the board cut. >> republicans right there cat quick. >> the second whopper is the defense budget for 2013 cuts the budget in nominal terms for the first time since then 90s. they reduced defense consistently for the last four years. the one federal program that has clearly not liked. >> i thought it was a totally politicized statement. he said ...