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Old charges in florida and now perhaps concern about new charges surfacing. >> we're always grateful to have you. julie brown, it's a privilege to have you, congratulations on the role your reporting played. thank you all for spending time with us. after the break, we have often asked on this show what foreign leaders say about donald trump behind closed doors. now we know, the private cables sent home to the uk from one of the top diplomats from one of america's oldest allies and if on cue, america's thin skinned president lashed out in the last hour. you don't want to miss this. trump defi...

Inability to govern effectively and what we see happening in terms of the national emergency that is not the board e, but rather is donald trump's conduct of presidency. >> carl, john, thank you. sorry for the technical problem and mr. toobin. coming up, more on the shutdown's effect on people, and air traffic controllers who keep us safe. be right back. coaching means making tough choices. jim! you're in! but when you have high blood pressure and need cold medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. coricidin hbp is the #1 brand

It's a crisis up here. whether it's a crisis on the boarder k i'm interested to see the case the president's going to make. >> paul, do you see it as a crisis? >> there is an opioid crisis, yes, but not an illegal immigration crisis. we have fewer undocumented folks here today than ten years. the president goes to the board e, he hasn't announceded where he's going to go. where ever he stands on border, he'll be in a district where the local member of congress opposes his wall because every member of congress who represents the border says we don't need a wall. they oppose it. so i hope he lis...

President's using. there is a crisis with opioid addiction and i think this president has been pathetic in how he has addressed that. i think michael is correct in that there's a crisis and a lot of good people are dying. i don't think this president has focused on it sufficiently and i wish he would, but the wall is not going to fix the opioid over dose problem. it could be counterproductive to it by pulling resources away from interdiction and treatment and putting it into concrete. it would be i think a huge mistake. it's not the argument the president's wruzing. he may throw that against t...

Do you think at this point, the president should bypass congress and declare a national emergency? >> i don't think the wall got built because we couldn't find the intestinal fortitude to get it done. i live about 18 miles outside of buffalo, new york and 48 hours over this weekend, we had nine opioid overdoses. three people dead and we talk about you know, the children being smuggled across. the women being assaulted across as they come up north to go across the border, but 94% of opioids that are abused in the country come across the board e and whether it's by car or by tractor trailer or b...