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Is the ground speed because we are pulling it off of data was consistent, but the question is why didn't level out well above that terrain. again, they would have had warning and nobody the terrain and the on board information would have told them to pull up caution, caution, whoop whoop, and they didn't react to that. we don't know whether they were physicallyin cap as ated or couldn't command the airplane to recover. >> thank you both for your expertise. next up, we'll turn to the other breaking news we opened with this hour. the president and president gauning talking about troop levels a...

They would never get elsewhere. i don't like being called elitist. i'm a very down to earth person and i believe that there are many, many millions of people like me who turn to public broadcasting for a solid across the board information. i think, john, that not only is this financial, it's political. i think that what's happening here is not only are they looking at the budget, they're looking at a way to silence public broadcasting. >> ron schiller is the npr fund-raising official. he has now left the organization but he is the one captured on the tape. >> right. >> again, this is a contemp...