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Is there anybody looking into the possibility that something may be, may have run afoul here? >> yeah, look, the el salvadorian officials and the mexican officials have all looked into this guy. everything checks out. the strongest piece of evidence is the boat itself, which found its way from mexico all the way to here in the marshall islands. the boat incidentally when the islanders found it on this island where it washed ashore, they found a seabird in the boat tethered alive and its foot tethered to the boat as if it were the next meal. they also found turtle shells in the boat. this is th...

Military aircraft in there for fear they could get involved in a confullgration. so plan c was the ferry. the boat itself, the ferry itself is protected and the sort of egress to the ferry is also protected. but it's not adequate. we should not be in a position that we have not been able to evacuate these americans now. and i think my understanding is folks are frustrated in the administration, as you might expect. and the problem is, this is a difficult task that we always seem to assign, regardless of administration, to the state department, which frankly is not probably the best organizatio...

And fran townsend joined me, as well. she visited libyan officials at the invitation of the libyan government in her last trip. fran, why do you think we're having so much trouble getting u.s. citizens out? >> anderson, those countries that have been successful have mostly not had to ex-filtrate their citizens from tripoli. you talked about benghazi and other problems of libya. what's happened is the state department chose to marshal everyone they needed to evacuate in tripoli. they had a plan to evacuate them by air. the air reservations they made were not honored. so they were looking for pl...

Mostly not had to ex-filtrate their citizens from tripoli. you talked about benghazi and other parts of libya. this is a real problem. what's happened is the state department chose to marshal everyone they needed to evacuate into tripoli. they originally had a plan to evacuate them by air. the air reservations they made were not honored. so they were looking for plan b. they were reluctant to get a military aircraft in there for fear they could get involved in a conflagration. and by the way, the libyans wouldn't permit them to land a u.s. military aircraft. so plan c was the ferry. weather ha...

Having so much trouble getting u.s. citizens out? >> anderson, those countries that have been successful have mostly not had to ex-filtrate their citizens from tripoli. you talked about benghazi and other parts of libya. this is a real problem. what's happened is the state department chose to marshal everyone they needed to evacuate into tripoli. they originally had a plan to evacuate them by air. the air reservations they made were not honored. so they were looking for plan b. they were reluctant to get a military aircraft in there for fear they could get involved in a conflagration. and by t...