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Small victories, i avoided bob. i felt like a hero, like i did something special. anyway, when i -- i was so used -- i thought everyone in my life -- let me make this clear. i thought i could come back, but i always did think i could come back, but the previous year to me going to treatment, the addiction had become -- i didn't even like it anymore, but i could not stop doing it. i didn't enjoy what it did to me. >> larry: it didn't give you a high. >> i couldn't get high. i would get something. >> larry: what was it then? >> i'm an addict. i can't describe it to you. if i did it, i couldn't g...

Tried to get me, i jumped out of the car, and i went on sunset and bob who will be out later, i gave him the slip. when you're using drugs, you get small victories like, i avoided bob. i felt like a hero, like i did something special. anyway, when i -- i was so used -- i thought everyone in my life -- let me make this clear. i thought i could come back, but i always did think i could come back, but the previous year to me going to treatment, the addiction had become -- i didn't even like it anymore, but i could not stop doing it. i didn't enjoy what it did to me. >> larry: it didn't give you a...

And go to a book store. him in a book store, having just gotten out of rehab. he was like a mess. he was nervous and excited. he had stacks of books. he had to relearn everything. >> yeah. >> larry: are you a reader? >> i read a lot. i am a reader. i always have a novel going. bob stopped and asked if i had been reading, i hadn't been in book soup for like four or five years, because i was ashamed to go in there because i knew everybody. so he took me down in echo park, vermont to this book store. >> skylight books. he was like a kid in a candy store. >> i'm sweating and nervous because i hadn...

Live. one of the things we didn't touch on is service and what tom's doing. he's going down to the mission, he doesn't want to talk about it -- >> you're not supposed to talk about it. >> larry: service, you should help people. service is part of the rehab? >> he's going down to the mission and he doesn't want to talk about it but that's a good thing. >> service and steps and the meetings. the triangle. if you stay in the triangle, you can't get in trouble. >> a secret thing. >> larry: keep it a secret. >> he's doing well. >> larry: thanks for joining us, bob. one more segment with tom sizemor...

I want to know what the experts think. joining me is bob forest, director of the hollywood recovery services. an addict himself and an addiction specialist. one of the best cries i p.r. men in the field, howard bergman. you've been in this crisis management for a long time. your old friend, stan rosenfeld, who is charlie sheen's publicist, resigned yesterday. clearly felt that he could no longer control his client. what did you make of that? and if you were advising charlie sheen now, what would you do to try and perhaps rebuild the bridge that's crashed around him? >> you know, stan's a very ...