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Describing the things that matter to him and the priorities that matter to him. he's made very clear he thinks that other countries, including uukraine and china and others should investigate his democratic rivals. so, i think that's something they will take into account and i think that, you know, the white house is left scrambling to look for a defense on the substance, rather talk about process, because the process is a better argument for them. they can make the case that democrats are being unfair. they would rather rally around that. >> yeah, you make a good point. the president leaves l...

Manufactured outrage and theatrics that we're seeing. every one of us swore an oath to protect and defend the constitution. and while their short-term political ambitions may be obscuring their ability to see the larger picture, that history will look back and judge this moment about what did we do when a president violated his constitutional oath, violated national security concerns. when a president behaved like this, what did we do? do we do our job and hold him accountable, or did we fall to partisanship and basically destroy any essence of patriotism and loyalty to country in the process?...

This entire process, let the facts set the agenda. so, we are looking forward to getting that material. this is a huge victory. and as you mentioned, it is also important to note that the judge in her ruling also said that the process of this impeachment inquiry is constitutional, it is in accordance with house rules, and it is being done properly. >> so, does that put to rest the republicans' argument about the process? i mean, does that just say, okay, it's over, don't talk about it anymore? >> it certainly should. their argument has always been a red herring. and really, their actions this ...

He knows that this is a process, again, that's just been backed up by the courts if it wasn't clear enough already, that is open to republicans. there are 40 republicans who sit on the five committees of jurisdiction in the impeachment inquiry. all of them are allowed to be part of this. i do not sit on one of those committees. i don't go to this part of this inquiry. they also have a house republican counsel who is part of all of these depositions, part of all of this testimony, and is asking questions on their behalf for the republicans of these witnesses. this is a red herring. when you can...

Substance the nature of the way the president has tried to craft ukraine policy. one thing that concerns the white house is the fact that when it comes to whether or not the president's substantive actions were defensible, there is a lot of division among republicans on capitol hill. >> oh, yeah. it seems like there was some sort of a conference call to republicans that said, use the word process, process, process. i mean, i think it was uttered like 33 times in all of the q&a with reporters yesterday from republicans. only the word process, nothing about the substance. >> that's right. >> but...