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If you will with the ideology of isil and the idea of acting vieolently is of great concern. it's a trend that would suggest things are increasing not decreasing. >> joining us to discuss from orlando, florida retired lieutenant mark hertling cnn military analyst, former commander of the u.s. army in europe and joining us from new york cnn global affairs analyst bobby goesh, the managing editor. we'll get to the cyber threats and isis recruitment in a moment. first talking to michael weis about the u.s. and russia potentially working together in some areas to fight isis. the white house press ...

Fact maybe a little bit more so. they have a great many boundaries with countries that have these kind of terrorist threats within them. they fought the chechens for a while, repressed some elements of their population so there is the potential for this increased linkage. you have the issue with their previously backed syrian partner that is as michael said earlier, is falling apart right now. i think they are going to be looking for an increased partnership with the united states in terms of fighting terrorism. >> and we're waiting for this news conference to happen, bobby, between the foreig...

At all facility bases across the united states they've already been on a higher state around the world, but already this could be seen as a propaganda victory for isis. >> it could be wolf and i have to completely agree with bobby. he makes a great point. al qaeda was generation x. isis is the millennials. they are depending on social networking. we have to counter -- aggressively counter the on-line narrative because this is the incarnation of the video gaming generation number one, we've got to go against that. we haven't done real well in that category yet. but then the second thing, a grea...

Administration doesn't have a lot of chips to play. and if a deal is made with iran then perhaps the iranians can talk to the saudis back at their proxy government. the administration has painted itself into a corner with syria and really has no other options at this point. >> is that how you see it? >> the question, a lot has changed. first of all the united states has not had any success in empowering the pod rat opposition to assad. isis has become much stronger. we are now fighting a huge war against them. as painful as it is to admit. we have to recognize the reality overthrowing assad ri...

>> with me now, legal analyst joey jackson and cnn legal analyst danny saah val a. >> what do you think was the clinching piece of evidence? >> two pieces. one is the video of him fleeing from the police because the police are people who arrest you when you do something illegal. that shows that he knew -- >> doing something wrong. >> you got it. the second one would be the video where the investigators expertly asked the right questions because they know the statute and they asked him, did you know what you did was wrong. he says yeah, yeah i did. those had to be critical piece was evidence. u...