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But there are other things. talking about international criminal court, warning minute who anyone involved that they will be held accountable, there are banking things that can be done on freeze assets.involved that accountable, there are banking things that can be done on freeze assets. also get the european nations who were buying oil to stop buying. >> fran, to the oil point, fareed made that point as well saying that as long as they can make some money, the regime has no impetus, no reason to listen to anyone else. can the united states convince those who buy libyan oil to stop? and if the...

But as for the decision making and the leadership, it's a tough one. what we see in the public is what we know. and that's what the trump administration is waiting for, to see if they go this nuclear test. at that point, i don't see north korea packing down. they've looked at the world completely different from the way we do. >> there has been such a rampup in recent days. i'm curious, general hurt ling, how you see this latest development, if this was a test that failed, if it was some kind of ballistic missile. we're waiting to get word on that. but if they fail, does that deescalate some of...