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There's trust. certainly there's comments about more discipline or, you know, us not trying to do too much. but nothing like this. and nothing like these kind of interviews and access to an author such as michael wolf who is going to write this book. >> speaking of that access, let me play a little bit of janice minn had to say earlier on this network about how this all came about. >> he said, i don't know what they think i'm doing. and a different answers would be, i'm going to keep doing it. until they tell me not to. michael responded to me, there's so much chaos. i think i'm last on the to...

White house? would you have that access to bill clinton? >> i would hope not. there's always the possibility someone gets access, but you find out about it. you have communication with your staff people. if you see something that doesn't strike you, you get on top of it. these were early days. and apparently wolf just worked his way into the white house and got access both in the white house and outside with others speaking to him. again, i don't think we have seen anything quite like this, hallie. >> that is fair to say. pushing back on what wolf did and didn't do, did or didn't say, here's w...

Thinks the justice department is kind of his toy that he can use for his own purposes. and people who are viewing that, and justice department officials, fbi officials are seeing that and saying that's really disturbing. >> good to see all of you. and coming up, bob mueller's obstruction case. we'll talk about new reporting. plus, the white house in crisis i as the author of that bombshell book speaks for the first time revealing how aides really feel about president trump. >> i will tell you the one description that everyone game. everyone has in common. they all say he is like a child. the...

Wolff said he didn't know who that was. not true. we've heard donald trump talk about john boehner for years. but on the whole this has rocked the white house, this has overtaken their agenda. they wanted to start 2018 talking about immigration. republican leaders i'm told are going to camp david this weekend to talk about the agenda. on the same day this book is coming out. so the president will be meeting tomorrow at camp david at the very moment this book is coming out. so the reality here is in terms of winning or losing, i don't think we know the answer to that yet. one thing is clear, th...

Desist. they're not ceasing and desisting. in fact they have pushed the publish date up by four days. it's coming out tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. the publisher says we see it as an extraordinary contribution to our national discourse. what's your response to that? >> i'm no attorney so i'm going to leave the attorneys to litigate with the attorneys for the -- the spokes people for this piece of tabloid trash, but it's pretty obvious that if i were an attorney, there are plenty of accusations in that book that have already been disproven. there are plenty of accusations in that book that are not cred...