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Said they were going to focus on leaking. and the leaking of information surrounding this investigation. you've seen two sides really taking different taxes when at the bottom of all this -- tacks, so i think this is a continuation of what seems to be a polarization between the democrats -- julie: it is a mess when you're in the midst of an investigation, and right now there are three investigations going on; was there trump surveillance, was it legal and was there collusion with the trump team and russia. so far no evidence of collusion between the trump transition team and the russians, but ...

Hacking into the system and getting e-mails that are accurate information out of the democratic apparently in the middle of the election and disclosing them to the american people. now, i don't know if the russians did that or whoever did that, but disclosing accurate information to the american people doesn't deserve this national scandal type of approach to finding out the facts. julie: democrats were none too happy when their e-mails were disclosed. is this payback, do you think? >> you know, listen, i will tell you something, if they were, if we were accused and the russians were accused, ...

>> it's very mysterious to me, though, why all of a sudden general flynn is suddenly out there saying he wants immunity. that -- a, i don't think congress should give him immunity. if there's an open investigation by the fbi, that should not happen. i also don't believe, actually, that the president should be weighing in on this. they're the ones that actually would prosecute something. i was very critical of president obama who weighed in on the irs scandal before we had all the facts, and i don't think donald trump should be weighing in on this at this point. >> reporter: to be clear though,...

Or not there was direct connection and whether it existed between campaign officials and kremlin operatives, that investigation is ongoing. and when the president's team is involved in an fbi investigation, you've got to believe that all the media have to cover it. i mean, we can't ignore a story like that. it's our duty as journalists to cover news. >> it's also, it's also important to put things in perspective, and the fact is this is so out of perspective because, again, there's no there there -- julie: right. >> there's no situation where the russians have provided secret information that'...

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