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Meeting. he claims he didn't know about it. when did he learn about it? is it even plausible given what we've learned and come out there was this significant meeting in trump tower and he was out of the loop. we like to go to people who have reason to know. you see barbara who worked for trump inside that very tower, a top executive for 20 years and joins me now. the author of "all alone foreign the 68th floor," an evening of powerful guests, if i say so myself and add you to the roster. thanks for being here. my pleasure. >> based foreign your knowledge how donald trump works and the trump or...

For bank account. he did not do that. >> thank you. rosy is live and wants to talk about protesting the white house. and donald trump's stunning admission about the russia meeting, past lives and future strategies. also, we have a trump organization executive. see her there on the screen at trump's side. she worked for him for 20 years and later the one and only rob reiner talking about truth and consequences for lying in american life and culture. live on "the beat" on msnbc. making cars lighter, it's a good place to start, advanced oils for those hard-working parts. fuels that go further...

Speech, as he did, he would have new dirt on clinton if he wasn't into the details? >> that occurred to me at the time and a few days later we learn learned about the meeting, absolutely. >> what do you recognize it as. he clearly wants to help his son, widespread reporting he's worried mueller could indict his son. i will tell you and give you my analysis and yours, if you are in trouble for the criminal mindset of obstructing a probe and do things that reveal more of your mindset you're not helping your son, potentially hurt him. >> you would say that and that would be the normal reaction. t...

I think it's starting to sink into the trump team what happened in conspiracy and they need to talk it away in the court of opinion because that will end up possibly of impeachment hearings. >> the other thing you're familiar with how propaganda and disinformation can be laundered through media and conversation and what we consider a robust civic society like our own. donald trump seems to be trying to not only move the gold post and probe and get a wider group of americans, maybe past his core supporters, look at all of this. this is what's done. take a listen. >> i think from a practical sta...

Trying to cover up what happened to authorities. the main reason you have for trumptologically admit any of this now, get ahead of bob mueller if he thinks the truth is coming out any way. i'm joined by nance, the author of "the plot to destroy democracy." this is coming from trump. what is your theory from an investigative perspective why it's coming out now? >> two things i believe. i think there may be a factor to it trump is trying to get out ahead of it. that may have been discussed at a meeting and it popped out. trump has a pattern of speaking we all know. lie, deny and arrogantly confe...