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Security. this is the trade-off that they are being presented within this future -- that the three of us are envisioning. >> well, presumably, these are not the only tapes that jack smith has. there's so much more to talk about but we have to leave it there. tali farhadian weinstein and carol leonnig, it's a great to hear from you both. thanks for joining me tonight. so, that was new bombshell reporting on special counsel jack smith's mar-a-lago investigation. and when we come back, we will begin to the fresh reporting on the special counsel's other big investigation into trump's role in janua...

Full blown war. so, general milley was worried that president trump would use the pretext of a war with iran to stay in power, which is, i guess, one way to do it. now, that war, obviously, never came to pass. instead, trump pulled many other insane levers to stay in the white house. but this new yorker story was a big deal. and in that month there were similar articles in the washington post and another outlets, and trump was apparently furious. the sum of the new yorker article came out, trump was so publicly enraged by all the reporting about general milley and general milley's campaign to ...

The pentagon had gone, and sort of wargamed out. and donald trump's thinking, how am i going to get this general? the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, who appears to be sharing his worries about the end of my presidency -- how am i going to get him? and the reporting we have today is that he was going to suggest he had a document saying the general wanted to invade the country, when we have information that that is not the case. so, it's sort of a double whammy irony. like, on the one hand, records everything, donald trump, so that you can catch reporters miss describing you. now it catc...

Such a small motive in flashing around material that would be valuable to an adversary, that would be dangerous to get into the wrong hands, that would cause grave danger to americans security. this is the trade-off that they are being presented within this future trial that the three of us are envisioning. >> well, presumably, these are not the only tapes that jack smith has. there's so much more to talk about but we have to leave it there. tali farhadian weinstein and carol leonnig, it's a great to hear from you both. thanks for joining me tonight. so, that was new bombshell reporting on spe...

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