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Ukraine matter writ large, do you see one of the first opportunities for republicans to put distance between themselves and this president, which would require a lot of them to bust out of the most pliant relationship we've ever seen in the modern history of politics? >> strangely enough, i think that the issue in syria has caused more chatter and more disturbance and more dissension inside the republican ranks than any single issue i have seen the entire trump presidency. >> wow. >> it has really been something that ep wehe went over a red li >> i didn't mean to interrupt. i was surprised to ...

Opportunities for republicans to put distance between themselves and this president, which would require a lot of them to bust out of the most pliant relationship we've ever even in the modern history of politics? >> strangely enough, i think that the issue in syria has caused more chatter and more disturbance and more dissension inside the republican ranks than any single issue i have seen the entire trump presidency. >> wow! >> it's been something that he went over a red line. >> i didn't mean to interrupt. i was surprised to hear you say that. what will it take to bring them out publicly? w...

Now and susan collins saying, this is an outrage and must be reversed? >> it's a collection of calcium-based bone structures along the back. it runs vertically. it will take a spine. it will take courage. the first move, they're going to take some heat from donald trump but reap the most benefit from the american people, standing up for things they always believed in, standing up for our nation's security in the face of a president who is quite out of control when it comes to the foreign policy questions and, you know, while you and i aren't part of whatever drug deal is being cooked up, as jo...