Big bonfires with gary. >> that's what we do. that's what's all that wood's for. >> that's a lot of wood. >> yep. that's a lot of wood. >> tracy and josiah in particular, they really like it here. and they really feel very comfortable and josiah says he doesn't want to leave. do you feel a big responsibility in having them here? >> i do. i feel a lot of responsibility for them, for being here. if you give too much encouragement and build up their hope and then it doesn't work, you've just destroyed people for no reason. at the same time, i don't want to beat any hope they have down and rob tha...