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When the entire time, he was kind of a double agent. nobody has much faith in vladimir putin being good faith in any kind of overture for a cease-fire. i've seen an indication, just this morning, the international red cross, that the evacuation route from mariupol had been mined, which is a massive war crime, which would suggest that while the russians are saying we'll allow this so-called green corridor for civilians to get out they were literally booby trapping the route for these civilians to get out and wanted to kill as many people as possible. so no, i wouldn't think that there is going ...

>> the signal to noise ratio is so high. >> on one hand we know who hates each other presumably. we've learned when there's been various blowups, people screaming at each other. but there's also -- there's both kind of -- there's certain people who speak without regard to the truth and others who are so deliberately manipulative of the truth. you see reporting about this, where they will put things out there that aren't true either just for fun or to discredit reporters when they report on something incorrectly. so there's a sense everyone is walking through a hall of mirrors all the time, rig...

It is more secretive that most any other, but on the other hand we know more than ever before. >> on one hand we know who hates each other presumably. we've learned when there's been various blowups, people screaming at each other. but there's also -- there's both kind of -- there's certain people who speak without regard to the truth and others who are so deliberately manipulative of the truth. you see reporting about this, where they will put things out there that aren't true either just for fun or just to get reporters when they report on something incorrectly. so there's a sense everyone i...

But there's also -- there's both kind of -- there's certain people who speak without regard to the truth and others who are so deliberately manipulative of the truth. you see reporting about this, where they will put things out there that aren't true either just for fun or just to get reporters when they report on something incorrectly. so there's a sense everyone is walking through a hall of mirrors all the time, right? and this kind of war on the nature of empirical reality is something that you've seen with elements of the right for, you know, decades and which has now reach this kind of --...

And the kids will pick them up. >> isis is known for putting -- for booby trapping a number of things, but one of the things they're doing extensively in western mosul now is knocking out walls in between buildings, and they're pushing civilians, essentiallherding them into groups, 40, 50, and then drawing fire from coalition air strikes. >> the story is so underreported because it's so profoundly dangerous. >> i mean the thing about underreporting is that isis has -- they have sort of a litany of horrible things that are happening. and you can't cover every single part of the atrocities that ...