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Going to say what they want to hear. >> sean: let me ask both of new, you both are raising interesting points. interesting to get the different advantage points here. they didn't call rahm rahmbo many they didn't call valerie jar they didn't call tony rezko. obviously the prosecution made a decision that they are not going to be helpful to their case. that raises the possibility that blago's team is going to do what the prosecution didn't do. >> i hope the judge allows it. here's the thing, rahm emanuel came up so much in this trial you would think he was on trial himself. opened up the prosec...

Hear. >> sean: let me ask both of new, you both are raising interesting points. interesting to get the different advantage points here. they didn't call rahm rahmbo many they didn't call valerie jar they didn't call tony rezko. obviously the prosecution made a decision that they are not going to be helpful to their case. that raises the possibility that blago's team is going to do what the prosecution didn't do. >> i hope the judge allows it. here's the thing, rahm emanuel came up so much in this trial you would think he was on trial himself. opened up the prosecution case the first couple of ...

Reprehensible as it was. the white house choosing not to engage on that. it was first reported by the news service. highlighting the naktfact that leak occurred. what are sources telling you about why the white house won't apologize for what was a pretty egregio egregious remark? >> i think it is instructive to reset a bit and look at the book ends. the week ban with malania trump releasing a campaign to encourage kids to put kindness first in their lives and ending with the white house digging in heels over this crass remark of a communications staffer made about john mccain. now to your ques...

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In the end kushner describes an operation that is at times over worked, under prepared, inexperienced, disorganized and sometimes easily penetrated by russian officials. given that, can we or the investigators put much stock in all these denials? i'm joined by nbc's hans nichols from the white house. hans, let's start with everything that we saw today, which is first of all you have this 11-page statement. it comes out 6 in the morning. then you have him go behind closed doors. he comes out, he gives less than a two 1/2 minute statement. what's the white house staying in reaction to all of thi...