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Would benefit from the sort of thing. i think is really interesting here. >> he was the king of tunnels. >> when they talk about this -- go over the past two years both of them have supported and congress spending 1.6 trillion, $1.6 billion on exactly this kind of border fencing as did nancy pelosi who calls this a moral and said that she wouldn't give a dollar to it and yet she has voted and it is not a partisan issue. >> martha: what is the purpose of having a wall or technology? what is the purpose of it? >> you need to have both. >> martha: what is the design for? what is it supposed to do...

President put himself in a box and ended up with little money. beverly: many people when he decided to end the shutdown said it was a loss for him. he's dealing with an issue that democrats wanted border security. there are reports that obama did build 97 miles of border fencing. in 2014 he came out and asked for the humanitarian crisis at the border. but his word of crisis is never critiqued by the media. philippe: to say it isn't fair because obama got away with something bad, you are acknowledging what trump is doing is bad. beverly: i'm acknowledging the

On the border. your brother, among those who voted no on that conference report. senator amy klobuchar, bernie sanders both voting yes over in the senate. where do you think the heart of the democratic party is? >> i don't think that most folks support more border fencing or certainly not a border wall. as you know, kasie, there are already 654 miles of fencing along a border that is 1,094 miles long and to the except somebody believes there may have been fencing needed somewhere, i think that's already been done. so i'm glad that you had a number of democrats that did not support this. i woul...

On the border. your brother, among those who voted no on that conference report. senator amy klobuchar, bernie sanders both voting yes over in the senate. where do you think the heart of the democratic party is? >> i don't think that most folks support more border fencing or certainly not a border wall. as you know, kasie, there are already 654 miles of fencing along a border that is 1,094 miles long and to the except somebody believes there may have been fencing needed somewhere, i think that's already been done. so i'm glad that you had a number of democrats that did not support this. i woul...

Campaign for president. we start with good news, major league baseball squads reporting to spring training this week, yes, including my orioles. meanwhile back here in washington, a dispute over policy became a dispute over constitutional power as president trump declared a national emergency at the southern border. and now a number of states are preparing to file lawsuits, while the chairman of the house judiciary committee announced an immediate investigation. advocacy groups like public citizen are already out with lawsuits. so that's what's coming. but how did we get here? shortly after ...