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Own narrative. and sure, what happens first thing this morning? he puts out a tweet relitigating the election. >> i'm going to let you wish on that star. we're going to talk about that, but i want to actually go to that border. we're in arizona at this moment. talk to us about the logistics. earlier this morning when we heard from john mccain, he said it's much more than a wall. you need much more technology, you need drones. this is massive to really get something done. >> reporter: yeah, stephanie, that at this point is the $10 billion question. we don't know how much it's going to cost to b...

Residents in texas who have a view of what life along the border is like don't think so. joining me now, jason book who covered border affairs. welcome to you. i know you wrote an article about this topic. why do residents think a border wall is unrealistic? what are some of the reasons? >> well, for one thing, there's already several hundred miles of existing border fencing that's been put in. we talked to people who had mixed reviews about how effective that has been. then in texas, we have really wide swaths of very remote border along the rio grande river that a lot of people said it would...

Southern border. >> hillary clinton wanted the wall. hillary clinton fought for the wall. in 2006. >> katie, what's the truth? >> we rated this half true. hillary clinton did vote for about 700 miles of border fencing, but trump makes you think she wanted what he's been proposing this whole campaign when really trump's wall and that fence were very different. >> fence, not a wall. i know this fence isn't going to get mended between those two any time soon. more fact checking coming up on msnbc because this is the place for politics.

This is when trump turned it on hillary clinton and called her out for her record on walls or fencing, here was that moment. >> hillary clinton wanted the wall. hillary clinton fought for the wall. in 2006 or thereabouts. now she never gets anything done so naturally the wall wasn't built but hillary clinton wanted the wall. >> wait, wait, sir. >> we are a country of laws. >> wait a minute, i'd like to hear from secretary clinton. >> i voted for border security and there are -- >> and the wall. >> there are some limited places where that was appropriate. there also is necessarily going to be n...

We have to come up with a realistic solution. the problem with biflding a wall of course. terribly expensive. if would not deal with the, estimated up to half the people here unlawfully today came to the country lawfully. if we built the 3,000 mile fence. you know it wouldn't, it wouldn't address the problem of visa overstayers. i do believe we need some kind. we need border fencing. but i think we can take advantage of natural terrain. rely on changing technology. to achieve greater border security. i don't think we need a 3,000 mile fence. thinking, proposing that mexico pay firt. -- pay for...