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This actually comes to some sort of conclusion and the government opens back up. >> well, i think, again, democrats take back control of the house in a couple of days. they're going to pass something to the senate, mitch mcconnell. i think it's very hard for the senate to not vote for something when they've already done something. they've already approved unanimously a bill that would have ended this shutdown or not even started it for crying out loud. and for them to not vote for that now would look terrible. i think it's going to go to trump. he'll go through one round of vetoing it because ...

Here is what you said in the 2006 "washington post" interview. you said, quote, i tend to think that the rational approach is to find a way to give people a pathway to citizenship. you also as governor of arkansas advocated for some type of financial assistance or help for those attending in-state colleges but in the country illegally. where are you on immigration? >> i've always been in the same place, secure the border first, don't provide amnesty, but don't be irrational. people are not angry about immigration because they hate immigrants. they're angry about immigration because they see th...

Here is what you said in the 2006 "washington post" interview. you said, quote, i tend to think that the rational approach is to find a way to give people a pathway to citizenship. you also as governor of arkansas advocated for some type of financial assistance or help for those attending in-state colleges but in the country illegally. where are you on immigration? >> i've always been in the same place, secure the border first, don't provide amnesty, but don't be irrational. people are not angry about immigration because they hate immigrants. they're angry about immigration because they see th...

I agree with you 100%. quickly, about the closing the border. what about giving some of that federal land away or selling the federal land? give it away, let farmers ranch that but they have to keep the borders close. i know it will take business away from you with the i.c.e. agents but may bay way to do that. >> the border down there, that's really not our thing. we do everything in between the borders so that's not going to take any business away from us. >> okay. well, i'll say thank you to you, chris, and be fair and balanced and bring in doug, who supports the senate immigration reform bi...

Guarantee illegals can't get a green card until the security components are in place. >> this has the most tangible, not subjective, tangible triggers that you can possibly put in place. every american can look at this bill, can look at the implementation and see that tangibly things are in place. >> reporter: the amendment estimated to cost more than $30 billion would build a 700 mile border fence, add new technology, including radar, night vision, drones, implement e-verify so illegals can't find work, entry, exit tracking, with 20,000 more agents, double the border control. he says they did...