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Matter of urgency. he sites 9/11, he sites the boston marathon bombing, sites orlando, he sites san bernardino, he sites these instants, very traumatic instance for this country, this temporary ban on immigration from the seven countries that are part of this ban, did not -- if you had that ban in place, that wouldn't have affected these particular tragedies he's talking about. >> well, you may be right, you are right on that, but if you think about it, when tragedy strikes, you never know until tragedy strikes who the perpetrators are. and where they came from. and it's very hard to monday mo...

On the south side between mexican authorities and unknown suggests. we immediately took action on that, along with our partners, the local law enforcement, el paso police department, and were able to block off traffic, going to a highway that runs parallel to the rio grande river, parallel to the town of el paso. rick: if this is in fact some violence that's crossing over the border, someone at the u.s. border control, what's your response? >> well, immediately ensure the public's safety, ensure that we maintain our border safe, of course, realistically, there's nothing we can do about it roun...

Going into more battles with the law. anyway, i don't mean to interrupt, but i just couldn't help myself. >> we are just pausing for a brief book proposal by chuck on behalf of los angeles judges everywhere, right? >> that's right. >> all right. we'll move on now to the debate over the controversial immigration law in arizona. as you know, it is moving to the courtroom now with supporters of the bill ready for the tough challenge in court from the federal government. >> but some state leaders believe the outcome from this legal battle won't make arizona's border safe for its citizens. congress...

Department of homeland security. >> they want different technology. she did announce they're using -- >> she's been asleep at the switch on this issue for whatever reason. she's been way too lax as governor. she has not sounded the alarm bill. >> i'll tell you why, potentially. >> if we were in that position, we would be saying, get that border safe. that's an issue. if you're running homeland security and you can't keep our borders safe -- >> homeland security said they would disagree. they're using different technology, military technology -- >> boy, sure is working well, that technology. >>...

Representing some border patrol workers and he's been a border agent in san diego area since 1978. welcome. >> thank you. >> jamie: since you've been down there, you're the best person to ask. would this fence help the border agents? we know neither one really works in isolation. they would, you know, be compliments to each other in terms of keeping our border safe? >> well, they would, and technology is nothing new. the folks who have dreamed up this project act as though they invented fire. we've had technology for last 40, 50 years and it has complimented the boots on the ground. this is a ...