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So the government sued the state of utah and the bundys and the federal government won. and the state of utah appealed to it a federal appeals court and the appeals court did not disturb. then the federal government went back to a trial judge and got an order saying, give us an order authorizing us to remove them from our land since they won't leave voluntarily. this is not a tax, it's a grazing fee set by congress, the amount of money the bundys owe for letting their cattle roam free on federal property which they thought was their property or the state of utah's property and the state of uta...

Demarcation. >> the executive order comes to execute the law. so as long as it's -- basically the congress passes a law. the president wants to execute that law, so he issues an order saying, we're going to do the following things, but what he can't do is write a new law. >> let's take the example of gun control. if he issues an executive order where he has an idea in his mind about what gun control should be, can he issue executive order? is that executing an order or is that just making up his own? >> making up his own. >> greta: that's where the line is drawn. >> and at that point the corre...

Demarcation. >> the executive order comes to execute the law. so as long as it's -- basically the congress passes a law. the president wants to execute that law, so he issues an order saying, we're going to do the following things, but what he can't do is write a new law. >> let's take the example of gun control. if he issues an executive order where he has an idea in his mind about what gun control should be, can he issue executive order? is that executing an order or is that just making up his own? >> making up his own. >> greta: that's where the line is drawn. >> and at that point the corre...