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For some barrier? >> right. i don't know that i favor a shutdown since i favor us getting this resolved including trying to resolve some of the border security issues. i'm not for a shutdown, in fact i've been very outspoken opposed to any kind of shutdown. i don't like shutdowns, i don't like what they do to federal workers and to the american people, it's the wrong way to be able to do it. but it should be reasonable to do some border security in this period of time. >> so, senator, you just left the senate intelligence committee to get on senate finance, i know which is a good job for any s...

In huma, arizona, the sheriff said it works. it works. every time it's been tried. >> well, it works in israel. i can tell you, i have been dealing with border security issues for 10 years, plus. every time we build a physical barrier the drug trafficking goes down. illegal crossings go down. there are some places you don't need a physical barrier but there is 700 miles of fencing has been authorized since 2006. we just want to build what we have already agreed to do. and so the bottom line is walls work. but you are dealing with a group of people who see their government as the problem. they ...

In huma, arizona, the sheriff said it works. it works. every time it's been tried. >> well, it works in israel. i can tell you, i have been dealing with border security issues for 10 years, plus. every time we build a physical barrier the drug trafficking goes down. illegal crossings go down. there are some places you don't need a physical barrier but there is 700 miles of fencing has been authorized since 2006. we just want to build what we have already agreed to do.. and so the bottom line is walls work.o but you are dealing with a group of people who seeee their government as the problem. t...

Place where they have tsa workers and border patrol not being paid right now. if they separate out the rest of the quarter that is not funded right now and get that through to the end of the fiscal year and live to argue another day, they buy themselves about a month of negotiation time. in which case this is going to be a free-for-all. that was not that long ago that we were talking about $25 billion for the wall in exchange for the daca program. in order to make sure you took care of immigration issues alongside border security issues. that's the way the democrats like to do this. whether or...

Some views on some of the key immigration and border security issues that the president had run and won on, had expressed some differences. one of those was about the wall. you'll remember that john kelly, rather early on, was sort of forced to walk back some comments in which he suggested the president was evolving or learning on the wallisch issue because kelly had talked to border protection, border patrol agents who said look, we don't need a solid concrete wall, what we need is barriers in certain areas, technology and more personnel. >> here's the thing, when it comes to reading that lin...