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Continue running. so it plays right into the hands of those who would prefer to see a government take a back seat. >> where is the plan in this? do you think it was a mistake of president trump to put the bar at $5 billion for a border wall, as opposed to i'd like to see some border security measures in the bill? >> well, i think it was a mistake to say that this is the only way to secure the border. i really -- i was an optimist. i thought he was going to use this to negotiate improving areas where we have the wall. there are certain areas you need to extend the wall. and then modernize the r...

Democrats, too. my sense of it is, keep in mind the last government shut down, there was a lot of analysis afterwards that said maybe the democrats overreached on that one and that shut down probably could have been laid at their feet. this time around, that's not going to happen. >> manu, there is a concern by republicans as well. just this shut down after the shut down after the shut down. this is not what they want to be seeing. >> especially the last days of all republican control of congress. senate republicans are really uncertain about the next steps. right now on the senate floor, they...

Yesterday morning, but. the day fell apart quickly after republicans met. there was no clear signal from the president he was going to sign the continuing resolution that the senate had passed. and then we found out that the freedom caucus had been on o the phone telling him he needs to be seen fighting. he can't cave. then there was an epic meltdown on capitol hill and republicans did prove they had the votes to pass $5 billion in border wall funding. that was a big question mark. so the senate is going to come back in this afternoon and the question is where do we go from here. et with know ...

>> look, i think democrats -- here is the thing, despite the president's mean tweets on this issue, both sides actually do want to see some increase in border security, right? the president is hanging it all on the wall. democrats have put other border security measures on the table. i think you strip away all the politics and insanity of washington >> julie: i know what word came to mind when you were saying that. i can feel it. >> i think this is an area where we can find -- congress proved yesterday it knows how to find bipartisan common ground on the prison reform issue. border security is...

. this is my son. i miss his beautiful smile. i will never get to see him. build the wall. thank you, president trump. >> wow, that was a news conference with angel families named for those whose loved ones were killed by illegal aliens. they held a rally on friday to show their support for tougher border security measures. >> our next guest an angel mom who immigrated legally from hungary lost her only son when he was shot by an illegal immigrant in 2002. thank you for joining us. i'm sorry about the loss of your son. tell us about your story an about your son. >> thank you so much. my fami...