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He has evolved in the way he looks at things. campaign to governing are two different things. this president is flexible in terms of what's within realm of the possible. >> what is all this $18 billion for a new wall all the way down? that's not what the border people are asking for. who patrol and secure it. is kelly right? has he evolved and so should everybody else on your side. >> i quibble with the words. i think that when somebody who hasn't had any federal government experience gets into the federal government, there's no question you're taking your crash course. but let me ask you the ...

Packed republican field. now, of course at the time, trump may not have thought that he would ever win or have to deliver on any of those promises. and those who did think that they might win knew that much of what trump was saying was crazy talk. and just tonight, finally after almost a year in office, the white house comes clean as the chief of staff, general john kelly, admits that much of trump's talk about immigration was, quote, uninformed. >> he's very definitely changed his attitudes towards the daca issue and even the wall. he has evolved in the way he's looked at things. campaign to ...

Shut down the government because they want to give amnesty to people who came here illegally, then you can have them on your show and they can explain why that's the appropriate thing to do. i don't think it is. that's what this is about and caucus are pushing for.reedom >> where's your heart though, congressman? you know the d.r.e.a.m.ers are in a fix. you know these aren't your typical illegals as you like to call them. you know the story of the man separated from his family in detroit. that's not what we're supposed to be about. you heard the president say he wants a bill of love for the d....

Gar gar. you'll have to act and now. is that more important to the president than the wall? >> our priorities are clear. we cannot get into a situation where we have a temporary stock gap fix and a few years down the road we have hundreds of thousands of new ill loel immigrants in the country. that's not a fix. that's inhumane and not a bill of love. that is not one that will provide a permanent solution. what we want is an actual permanent solution. that starts with securing the southern border. it is a sticking point for the chief of staff for the president and for the current secretary of h...

>> that's a gross supposition. >> hold on, you talk to any corporate ceo like i do, that wants nafta, they're very concerned about this and they know the trump administration is driving a hard bargain. i'd like to see how that deal comes out before -- >> that's not how mexico pays the wall. >> i think it's incredible people can look in the cram raw and say with a straight face mexico is going to pay for the wall. if you think that's going to happen, go invest with burny madoff, give him a call. get him to invest your money. let's not be naive. let's not lie to american people. >> i'm not lying...