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Flood into the country. we couldn't wait, we had to implement the suspension. it turned out that they are saying we are going to wait ten days on this. look, it is symbolism. the six nations are not the most important in terms of terrorism. pakistan, saudi arabia, egypt, others are. they are not on the list. it will be symbolism and not much more. >> bret: here is the homeland security secretary on another channel answering a question that is key to this whole border situation. >> our department of homeland security personnel will separate the children from their moms and dads. >> we have trem...

Flood into the country. we couldn't wait, we had to implement the suspension. it turned out that they are saying we are going to wait ten days on this. look, it is symbolism. the six nations are not the most important in terms of terrorism. pakistan, saudi arabia, egypt, others are. they are not on the list. it will be symbolism and not much more. >> bret: here is the homeland security secretary on another channel answering a question that is key to this whole border situation. >> our department of homeland security personnel will separate the children from their moms and dads. >> we have trem...

Were very polite. >> really drove it home for you. >> definitely reinforced. i think both of them ducked. i think that trump was very lucky not to get questions on actual news of the day and the actual matters. those reporters who got their questions for trump maybe should have thought about asking about general flynn or about other things instead of just saying, tell me more about nafta. >> they didn't ask about general flynn. on the other hand, he was asked questions and he veered off into some territory that could have been dicey. he voluntarily commented on the issue with mexico, saying th...

Mr. jenkins, your assessment of the european border situation. and are we in a new age where those open borders, thought to be what the modern world would look like in europe no longer work? we have the borders in europe and then the borders around you're. in the balkan and the mediterranean, they have broken down because of the tremendous influx of refugee, because of simply the difficulty of ceiling those borders because in many cases some of the countries on those frontiers have very limited resources to do that. the separate issue is in the core of europe which allows free travel.

Joining us now, brian jenkins who testified before the home wland security agency today. mr. jenkins, your assessment of the european border situation. and are we in a new age where those open borders, thought to be what the modern world would look like in europe no longer work? we have the borders in europe and then the borders around you're. in the balkan and the mediterranean, they have broken down because of the tremendous influx of refugee, because of simply the difficulty of ceiling those borders because in many cases some of the countries on those frontiers have very limited resources t...