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You represent even more of that northern border, which is more than double the size of our southern border. how strange is it, as you sit up there on the northern border in north dakota where most of it is completely unprotected, undefended, to hear all of this tension and stress being put on the southern border legislatively? >> well, this started for me in 2013 when we did the comprehensive immigration proposal. i was new in the senate. i said, what about the northern border, what about the northern border? no one would listen. and so along with kelly ayotte, we passed a bill requiring a nor...

Comprehensive immigration proposal. i was new in the senate. i said, what about the northern border, what about the northern border? no one would listen. and so along with kelly ayotte, we passed a bill requiring a northern border strategy which now has grown into an actual plan for securing the northern border. so, you know, we got very, very frustrated. but i think one of the great ironies of the shutdown is what it did to the coast guard and everybody forgets our maritime borders, which are absolutely essential in protecting our society, protecting our people. and this idea that every atten...

Essential in protecting our society, protecting our people. and this idea that every attention, because that's politically where the attention goes to the southwest border, we've got to fund the coast guard. we've got to tell those men and women of the coast guard that we appreciate what they do and will never do to them what we did to them in the shutdown. we have to have discussions with all kinds of law enforcement on the northern border. one of the big things that's missing here is the plus multiplier with stone garden, which is our relationship with those northern and southern border sher...

This is, is kind of a shift, honestly, that's going on unrecognized, in the past, in the midterms, mitch mcconnell needed the president. the president delivered a couple of key senate races, went out there and campaigned. i think that table has switched. i think the president needs mitch mcconnell much more than mitch mcconnell needs the president, to maintain their power base. and so i think that's kind of one of those back stories that's not getting talked about. but the honest truth is that there is a border strategy. there is a border security strategy at the department of homeland securit...

Have to come here. he could do a lot, and the democrats would help him, they would help him out of his own mess. but he's his own worst enemy on this. >> you know, it's interesting. we continue not to have a border strategy. and then if you listen to every within leaving office, from bush to speaker ryan, oh, i wish i had taken care of the immigration problem. let's please take care of that. he had the platform. he had both branches. he had the white house, he had the senate, he had the house. why was he always on the sidelines before he became speaker? yes, he was actually a co sponsor of the...