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Besides asylum, which has to be restored. a the lot of people are coming because of the covid economy pushing them north. there are certain industries that need workers and there's no legal way for them to come to take those jobs. >> our scale of what our big numbers for government spending has changed a lot in the covid era, but dhs said they would need $2 billion to cope with lifting title 42 in the expected influx of migrants that would come. what does it say about the scale of the problem that needs to be solved? >> reporter: first of all, you point out something, which is that we spend mo...

Conversation about the border wall has been. and may continue to be. >> border security is a national security issue. we have seen time and again that a path that will move migrants and drugs, a smuggling route, can also move arms, terrorists, and can move people who wish to do the united states harm. >> harris: can you get the money? >> for people who want to bifurcate that issue, i disagree. it is a national security, and has below has, backed by iran, shown a willingness to work with gangs, to infiltrate people in the united states. as it security issue, i'm fine h it. the frustration is th...

Find themselves in right now. >> also during yesterday's hearing, congresswoman was speaking about the six children we know have died in custody. does her testimony change what will happen here? >> i don't think it does. a lot of these members, for instance, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, called this a manufactured crisis. she's outside of the main there. whether or notes that going to produce any additional action other than that border supplemental that the house was forced into passing. that's probably very unlikely. everyone is kind of locked in their position already. >> i want t...

President's own policy. one thing congress should do is press and insist that the president reinstate the aid to the northern triangle, to try to prevent the conditions that are driving people to leave, to leave homes. to flee violence. the president made a terrible decision to walk away from that terrible tragedy. and so that tragedy is coming to our border. but i think congress needs to go farther. i supported the most recent border supplemental, reluctantly, only because i know we have to get something done. i would have preferred the house version to have been implemented, that requires pr...

Putting resources into getting agents to the border to process people and get them out of those conditions. and the money that is in the supplemental that is being requested by the administration, there are pieces of that that i think particularly for health and human services, that i think democrats, somebody like me who's been to those conditions and been in those heart breaking situations, i would be willing to support that. but they're also asking for money for other pieces at the same time that they're declaring raids on families across the country. they are not using the money we give th...