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Our federal employees. >> do you feel or could you support any additional fencing on the border. the president moved off his demand there be a concrete wall and said there be steel. democrats in the past have voted for various forms of the barrier that included fencing. would you support new fencing? >> i'd have to look carefully at that. we already have fencing where appropriate. even then we know drug traffickers made incursions over the fencing. in five years there were over 9,000 incursions over the fencing. they have better technology than we're using. we need drone technology, towers, bo...

Let's rip the government, put a deadline, and figure out how we are going to keep those borders safe. which isn't just a wall. his increased customs and border patrol. it's of drones. it's biometrics. >> harris: let me stop you right there. you said it isn't just a wall. so you can see the fact. you and i had these conversations, so i know you know it's part this come apart that, part that. there are some in your party who have said, who took a vote last night, who agree with each other that a wall isn't even part of it. when you and i both know that in 2006 there was money allocated. we don't...

Persecution. they're coming -- >> congresswoman, congresswoman, we have got leader pelosi at the mikes. i thank you for joining me with this important discussion and invite you back. thank you for joining me. let's listen to nancy pelosi. >> we agreed to continue our conversations. but we all -- we recognize on the democratic side that we really cannot resolve this until we open up government and we made that very clear to the president. services are being with held from the american people. paychecks are being withheld from people who serve the needs of the american people. and our border sec...

Happening, what ice is doing is making people go into the shadows and that makes all of us much less safe. >> i hear you on that argument. it's an interesting contrast heading into these midterms. the democrats for them, the given is that you seem to have your heart in the right place. is your head going to be in the right place, in terms of how you enforce the law and keep the borders safe. they've shown a a aposty of heart. separating the kids at the border. their head was in the right place in terms of securing the border, how they decided to do it put them in a hole. we'll see who winds up...

Across illegally, i hear you on that, the idea of coming across illegally is not the end of the game for people. i don't know that that has public acceptance, does it? >> i agree with you, chris, and democrats are not saying open borders, because ice doesn't have do do with our borders, it's a totally separate agency. what we're seeing is ice terrorizing communities, in a way that makes us all less safe. what we want is people who are willing to go to the police and law enforcement, if they see a crime, they want to be a witness, two things they have happening, what ice is doing is making peop...