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Either. you were really saying i wasn't objective or a journalist. >> i have to push back a little bit and ai am not a leftist or a right winger. i try to be down the mid em. you are free to try to critique whether that is true or not. i admired some of what you did when you evolved as a full throated libertarian. you questioned the notion should the fda always regulate. i thought you were a refreshing voice. you did it even for abc news even though it wasn't comfortable. right left, libertarian, vegetarian skeptical question that's my job. >> that was your job. you is did that more fair than ...

>> all of you had an ethical boundary problem? >> not me. i don't think i used that kind of tone or language. >> she said all of us. that was her words. >> most obnoxious guy on the panel is bernard kale who objected to my saying this. >> i am saying nobody is perfectly objective. we all have opinions. >> there are degrees. you get good audiences. how abc practices this this is a triumph. >> he said somebody listening for the facts would have trouble. >> he defends himself. i agree with what you said there's no such thing as pure objectivity. we are all a product of our experiences and yes our...