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Your democratic colleagues say there's no doubt about it, these were all impeachable offenses and we have yet to see one of your republican colleagues say the same. does that alarm you? >> yes, it does. i think the evidence has been compelling and i feel many of them should adhere to constitution and not to political winds and we're all facing reelection this coming year and we should not be scoring political points and our compelling and historical commitment to the constitution and what our duties are as duly elected members of congress. >> is there now any debate within the party as to how ...

We quote his lawyer and his response extensively and we have -- >> addressed those points. >> and there are details in this piece, as well. marty and julia, i appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for having us. >> i want to bring in jim mccarthy and he's ambassador sondland's personal spokesperson. thank you for coming in late notice. what is the ambassador's response and you say you had known about the story and was in the works for a few months. >> i'm amazed with those reporters say they were thorough and i've tried to be in contact with missile...

>> congressman, there you see the former navy secretary who we should note he appointed the deep state. is that appropriate? at this point, who is not the deep state? it seems that anyone who speaks out against the president they're labeled the deep state. >> didn't hear him call any names in that clip, and i wasn't at that rally and you can gauge by the reaction of the crowd that they support those actions and activities. the president is a president for special forces, for anybody who serves in our military and for first responders. he likens himself that way. he takes great pride in it and ...

The right thing. it warrant about the quid pro quo and he wanted to clarify that everyone understood that. november 14th, the ukraine foreign minister came out with his statement and the military funding had nothing whatsoever to do with the public statement of anticorruption. they did not see a link between this at all. >> one could argue that ukraine was the weaker of the two parties who desperately needed the help of the president of the united states and would do anything to get that aid even if they came out with a message saying there was no pressure. i understand your point. we'll have ...

Shocking at the time. not so much that people at the fbi or doj were shocked that that could have been happening, but the shock is that the president so could -- could so cavalierly be making such allegations like that, and they were hard to believe if not unbelievable at the time and it appears as this report by the independent oig will finally put them to rest. >> i mean, that allegation itself was so alarming that president obama who has been for the most part quiet throughout the process had to respond to it because it was such an egregious and outrageous allegation. juliette, we have you....