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Pollsters. do you think such a hidden anti-obama vote exists in ohio or elsewhere? >> why don't we just put it on the table. are we talking about the bradley effect here? >> yeah. >> talking about working-class white voters who aren't going to be honest to pollsters? >> the lack of who has cell phones and who doesn't. that skews polling as well. polls are so all over the map. we're all so obsessed about pressing 538 and real clear politics, it's driving everybody nuts like i've never seen before. >> chuck, bradley effect? >> no, not by an incumbent. >> i mean, it's possible, but i think that -...

Phenomenon, if i heard my guy was losing, that would make me rush out more to the polls. apparently people like to vote for a winner. this is all a crock. the exit polls in 2004, we were all depressed at noon that day because of the exit polls. >> sean: it was 3:00. >> i talked to you. >> sean: cheney called my radio show at that point. >> everyone was on-air. you could see it, even though you guys weren't releasing it, i think drudge was, all the faces on fox news, the conservatives were very, very long, very sad. turns out it was completely wrong. they always have an excuse for it. we sent o...

Was losing, that would make me rush out more to the polls. apparently people like to vote for a winner. this is all a crock. the exit polls in 2004, we were all depressed at noon that day because of the exit polls. >> sean: it was 3:00. >> i talked to you. >> sean: cheney called my radio show at that point. >> everyone was on-air. you could see it, even though you guys weren't releasing it, i think drudge was, all the faces on fox news, the conservatives were very, very long, very sad. turns out it was completely wrong. they always have an excuse for it. we sent out female graduate students. t...

Plus there might be a badly effect here. there is still a lot of people out there who don't necessarily want to tell pollsters that they are not going to vote for obama. bill: what is the bradley effect again? >> bradley effect was the mayor of l.a. a lot of people said they were going to vote for the black mayor and when it actually came time to vote they didn't, because there was a fear of being called racist, or being perceived as racist. there's been a lot of fertilizing the sort of soil by the main-stream media or the last four years that if you're against obama you're racist. some people...

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