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Saying exactly what that means, but depositions, of course, they're out of court sworn testimony that can be used to discovery purposes or potentially at trial. so we know that paul manafort, rick gates giving those depositions. now, the government we know has also handed over certain brady material, that's exculpatory evidence that could be beneficial to manafort's or gates' defense. the government has also released all of this information, all the documents to both defendants as manafort and gates, they prepare for a court appearance monday morning. both of them, of course, pleaded not guilt...

Reference, chris, the panetta review. i think it's actually important to have some context about what this was and what this wasn't. at the time director panetta said hey, let's keep track inside the cia of every document, all the thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of documents that were being provided to the congressional committee. let's keep track of them. let's summarize them. let's write-up short gists of those documents. at a certain point when attorney general holder authorized a criminal investigation by then acting u.s. attorney john durham to look into whether any crimi...

Committee? >> so i think here you reference, chris, the panetta review. i think it's actually important to have some context about what this was and what this wasn't. at the time director panetta said hey, let's keep track inside the cia of every document, all the thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of documents that were being provided to the congressional committee. let's keep track of them. let's summarize them. let's write-up short gists of those documents. at a certain point when attorney general holder authorized a criminal investigation by then acting u.s. attorney john dur...

Ago. i want to refresh people's memories. she was convicted of having her five-year-old son, the story was, dressed him up in the favorite outfit. said he was going to meet santa claus. handed him over to roommate and another man, who took the boy out into the desert and shot him. the allegation it was all to correct $5,000 in insurance money. how does a conviction, like, that fred, get thrown out? >> well, jon a couple of ways. i was thinking about this morning. i'm hard-pressed to think of a more horrific crime of all the cases we covered over last couple years. this was a terrible, terrible...

Examining a professional. a lot of these medical examiners are very brief and to the point and they're not very revealing. bao is testifying like he just fell off a turnip truck. he's talking about let me refer to my notes on human memory. he's got a article in front about the human memory and heaven only knows what's in his handwritten notes which might include something we call brady material. if there's material in those written notes that in some way help the defense exonerate zi r zimmerman there's going to be a major uproar. it sounds like a lot of notes, it's a big development. >> did y...