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>> in those hours after wards, what was he talking about? >> he really wasn't talking. >> he was just in shock. if he opened his mouth he broke down. across town debbie's tennis friends were out on the court waiting for her to start that early morning match. one of their husbands came out to tell them about debbie. >> so he called me over and said that lars had shot her. >> what are you thinking when you hear that? >> it was really surreal. i couldn't comprehend, how could somebody shoot somebody? it didn't make any sense to me. >> in arkansas, jim and ann kelly learned the news from their son...

Safety was on. all i knew he hadn't started shooting yet. i just saw it as a window of opportunity. it is either now or never. we are going to die either way. >> my motivator was them being life long friends of mine that it shut down my brain process and it was like once they jump into action i had to go help at that point. it was all in or nothing type situation. >> spencer, you grabbed this guy, a member of an isis cell with an ik47. that is not all he had. what happened when you tackled him? >> i was trying to grab the ak from him a little bit and practicing jujitsu at the time. we both sto...

Safety was on. all i knew he hadn't started shooting yet. i just saw it as a window of opportunity. it is either now or never. we are going to die either way. >> my motivator was them being life long friends of mine that it shut down my brain process and it was like once they jump into action i had to go help at that point. it was all in or nothing type situation. >> spencer, you grabbed this guy, a member of an isis cell with an ik47. that is not all he had. what happened when you tackled him? >> i was trying to grab the ak from him a little bit and practicing jujitsu at the time. we both sto...

Safety was on. all i knew he hadn't started shooting yet. i just saw it as a window of opportunity. it is either now or never. we are going to die either way. >> my motivator was them being life long friends of mine that it shut down my brain process and it was like once they jump into action i had to go help at that point. it was all in or nothing type situation. >> spencer, you grabbed this guy, a member of an isis cell with an ik47. that is not all he had. what happened when you tackled him? >> i was trying to grab the ak from him a little bit and practicing jujitsu at the time. we both sto...

>> in those hours afterwards, what was he talking about? >> he really wasn't talking. >> he was just in shock. if he opened his mouth, he broke down. >> reporter: across town debbie's tennis friends were out on the court, waiting for her to start that early morning match. >> reporter: one of their husbands came out to tell them about debbie. >> he called me over and said that lars had shot her. >> what are you thinking when you hear that? >> out of the box for you. >> it was very surreal. i couldn't even comprehend how could someone shoot somebody? it didn't even make any sense to me. >> repor...