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Not looking too much for the wealthy and is the brand problem if you'll be the majority again and particularly, the fax fairness debate that we've been having over the last couple of month and i don't think they've handled the tax fairness as well and this was a predicate of this problem. >> i would disagree with that, but the republican party has to get back to main street. main street issues and talking about how problems on main street should be affected here on washington, d.c., and for that, i do say we are a party that needs to really grapple with some big issues and we'll be competitive...

Balance what is a brand problem, which is that they are now the party of cutting spending, of austerity. but austerity is not popular. the polling shows that the american people would blame republicans if the pain for a austerity is felt by them. >> so what about the 2014? are we beyond thinking about this year, kathleen? is it about the mid terms? >> well, apparently, it's in my newspaper so it must be true. [ laughter ] >> you know, that's a very daunting task for the president. it's clearly his strategy to make the republicans responsible for any fallout. but the republicans are probably go...

Balance what is a brand problem, which is that they are now the party of cutting spending, of austerity. but austerity is not popular. the polling shows that the american people would blame republicans if the pain for a austerity is felt by them. >> so what about the 2014? are we beyond thinking about this year, kathleen? is it about the mid terms? >> well, apparently, it's in my newspaper so it must be true. [ laughter ] >> you know, that's a very daunting task for the president. it's clearly his strategy to make the republicans responsible for any fallout. but the republicans are probably go...

Republicans, right? they have built a lot of their brand at this point, a significant share of their brand, around cutting government spending. but you can't both take credit for the overall cutting of government and then try to get out of the blame if specific cuts hurt you in your district or if your constituents feel the pain of it. so republicans are trying to balance what is a brand problem, which is that they are now the party of cutting spending, of austerity. but austerity is not popular. the polling shows that the american people would blame republicans if the pain for austerity is fe...

>> they're in worst shape than on election day. because there's an after effect where now they're out of power and now the house republican look divided and no one knows who the leader of the party is. i think you're going to see -- once you guys release the whole poelsz, there's going to be a lot of numbers that make clear the republican party has a brand problem with the general public and i think they have an issue internally within the party, which is there's lots of republicans who think the party is either too extreme or, you know, doesn't adhere to the idealogical lines enough. there's ...