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The rnc's outreach effort? >> well, they believe that they have a branding problem. they have, they need to change their policies. you know, in order, they didn't trick enough people last year, so they need to change their rhetoric. what they need to change, is their policies. if they want more women to vote for them, then they need to stand up for equal pay for equal work. they need to keep their noses out of women's reproductive health. if they want black people, asians and other people of color to support them then they need to stop trying to block their vote, step-on will right the in acce...

What would you like to say about the rnc's outreach effort? >> well, they believe that they have a branding problem. they have, they need to change their policies. you know, in other words, they didn't trick enough people last year, so they need to change their rhetoric. what they need to change, is their policies. if they want more women to vote for them, then they need to stand up for equal pay for equal work. they need to keep their noses out of women's reproductive health. if they want black people, asians and other people of color to support them, then they need to stop trying to block th...

We won't give them equal rights. we've seen him backtrack now on gay marriage and, you know, we want african-americans to vote for us but we're going to suppress their votes in lots of states. so it's totally contradictory. they recognize they have a branding problem and messaging problem and, chris, the voters you're talking about have gotten old and some of them have passed away and left us. and the issue -- >> joan, you have just -- you have just basically said that your party is dying. >> well, first of all -- >> it is dying. >> you probably should take a look at how many governor's office...

Precise kind of pay to play stuff that can really damage somebody in a republican primary, especially with people who look much more squeaky clean like christie and jindal. those are like mccain level reform type folks. they will be able to hammer him on this basic issue of ethics. >> we very much look forward to that. angela, what about rand paul? he's got a ready-made constituency lined up for 2016 on the basis of his father. and, you know, what do you think of him? doesn't he have the best rationale for running? >> i don't know if he does or if he doesn't. here is what i do know. i know ran...

Be this long. >> joking aside, christie has an innate ability to know the room and be the regular guy. and isn't this what the republican party is lacking right now? i mean, they've got an identity crisis. why not start with the regular guy next door? is he the best bet they have? >> to some extent, the problem is how does he get through if he runs for president, how does he get through that republican primary. the party right now is dominated by a clear faction on the right that thinks their policies are the right ones for the country. there is no negotiation, no compromise whether that's on ...