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State who testified alongside valuable and -- and does so taylor today large ly wouldn't by -- because of his own engage with some republican personal agenda and not that of theories about the case. the public good or the troops, which make up the bulk of the what is that? is that actionable? president's defense at least i would say yes. i would say it's treasonous and right now. now, republicans tried to wall off the president by noting much i definitely would think that of taylor's knowledge of the that soldier would be court quid pro quo scheme came from marshalled. and i think that alone i...

Hearings. narrow the focus. some of your colleagues said to me ukraine needs to be the focus, doesn't want to see impeachment articles expanded to include mueller investigation and all of that. is there a danger not going down certain bread crumb trails that some witnesses are leading you to, george kent testifying that putin and orban essentially planted the seeds of corruption of ukraine with the president? doesn't that mean that you need to see those transcripts? >> ultimately, it could mean exactly that. i think the focus of this investigation was determined for us when the whistle-blower ...

Level of impeachment. and if he used abuse of power, does it matter how much the level is? isn't the abuse of power in and of itself something that is impeachable? adrienne? >> yeah, i mean, rev, this is what they're left w right? they try to focus on the process argument and that failed, and so now they're basically hanging on to the last bread crumb they can get their hands on. which is, oh, in the end, ukraine got the money, they got the funding that they needed, so it doesn't matter what conversations or what sort of intimidation quid pro quo happened in the meantime. what matters is they ...

The impeachment inquiry is proper and that we have to continue with it right now. and that it compels a production of documents and testimony from the other side. >> how much more evidence do you think you're going to need before you start laying out a public case here? i mean, it is this -- and i've asked this i think of you before and of other of your colleagues -- you know, you can -- you can keep widening the probe. i mean, every day there's a new nugget. there's a bread crumb about a trade deal perhaps with ukraine. you've got this mueller material. some of your colleagues may argue to ex...