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Came out again and reaffirmed again that we had had a very, very respectful good conversation that president trum dp nothing wrong. he doesn't even really understand what's going on over here. they look at us like is this country crazy? the democrats have gone nuts. they're crazy. >> u.s. and europe in nato? >> say it? >> do you see a great divide in nato between the u.s. and -- >> no. . not with us. but i do see france breaking off. i'm looking at him and i'm saying he needs protection more than anybody. i see him breaking off. i'm a little surprised at that. >> attempt and dependable member ...

Conventional deterrents and heavy sanctioning, north korea can take these baby steps but they can't threaten u.s. vital interests and that's just the status quo that will continue for some time. eric: in terms of the status quo, it looks like it is back to the drawing board over in sweden for now. those talks breaking off. our state department says no, that we came with, quote, creative ideas, and we had good discussions with our north korean counterparts and we thank the swedish foreign ministry and they will prepare to meet again in two weeks but the north koreans apparently walked out. what...

Good morning, kevin. >> good morning. >> when you and i were talking, what was the number? we heard it was going to be 2.5. what's in that number? >> this is in many ways the president recalibrating and breaking off. we've heard about steel slates or fencing and whatnot, and i believe privately people like mick null vainy and others when they were up there before the holiday recess negotiating, they were signaling that the $5 million number is something they would have low fehr. in the short term when nancy pelosi, the likely new speaker of the house anticipate this

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Devised a more unique weapon. >> cheese graters, i had leather work gloves. i took the pads off the inside of welding gloves. zipped them in varnish, put the pads on top of the varnish, dripped back down in the varnish, went over to a drill press where the curly cues are, i dipped down in a bunch of them, so it looked like a metal bush on top of the gloves. then let them dry for a minute. they i ran them through the top layer of the varnish in the can so it would keep them from breaking off, and let them dry on your hands while your hands stay balled up. and once they dry, they last forever. e...