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Is, it was derogatory. with all due respect to my friend jason here, this breeding concept is not new. in fact, this is language that's ripped right out of white nationalist nazi sympathizers. this is not -- this is not a new phrase. i'm not calling the president that, but what i am saying is that simply, this phrase that he used is a direct -- it's there. it's that language, over and over again. so, whether or not he consciously used it or not, the fact, it's still a derogatory piece. >> we haven't seen the president use those two words next to each other. i've definitely heard him say breedi...

Said, you know, simply, look, this is how i feel about people of color. like, y'all go out in dark places and breed. this is what you do. i mean, this is not about a growing concept. this is about showing that the country's becoming browner and places like california, he has an issue with that. >> jason, is breeding concept, as sarah sanders says, the problem is growing and getting bigger? >> keep in mind, this is last wednesday, almost a week ago, i think i saw it when the president tweeted it, exactly at that moment. my first reaction when i saw it, i thought he meant breeding contempt, and ...

Today in the legal arena than they ever did in the past and challenging the exclusive nature of the supremacy clause. so, i think we may see some action by the states. states have brought lawsuits now against the president over the travel ban, so, i think we're seeing muscle flexing by state attorneys general. >> professor dershowitz, professor toobin, sort of. >> ish. >> ish. >> coming up, sarah sanders' comments on the president's words of breeding concept. that's next.

How do you hear the word breeding? >> all due respect, a turn of phrase perhaps is a problem with the person otherwise highly articulate and sensible. this president you have to waid through a ma ras of unintelligence to understand what he's saying. the point is not simply the turn of phrase, it is the viciousness with which that phrase is communicated and it's the body of belief that that phrase intends to community kate. we know that this president has been deeply and profoundly antiimmigrant especially against brown people, especially against latinos so when he talks about a breeding concep...

Crime. i think that's what he was trying to say. i don't speak to the president about his tweets, of course, but to me i think people are jumping on the term. but i believe looking at the syntax i believe that's what he was trying to say. and i think that's what the point he was making. >> i appreciate you're saying that, why not just say that, though, scott? >> i think he did. i think if you look at the syntax of a lot of things he says both out loud and on twitter sometimes it doesn't come out the way you or i would say it out loud, but if were to say crime infested and breeding concept, i t...